TG: Total rejection. Then, now, forever.
In the wake of this week’s events, we talk a little about a lot of things. This is a pretty freeform episode of We Have a Technical, but we’re trying to talk a bit about the history of social and political commentary in industrial, partially as a means of distracting ourselves, partially as a means of garnering strength. You can rate and subscribe on iTunes, Google Play Music and Stitcher, download directly, or stream from the widget down below.
Probably the best conversation of yours I have listened to.
Thank you.
Thanks for this. It’s helped me today.
Ending with “A Graduation” lead to some cathartic sobbing.
Great conversation! Its nearly a week since the unpleasantries and I’m still not over it. In fact, I get gloomier by the day, and I live on the other side of planet. One particular issue you chaps brought up did however surprise me. Alex, I found you’re very quick dismissal of the political nature of some power electronics and noise artist, both surprising and perplexing. You bemoan the apolitical nature of the current industrial scene but dismiss power electronics/noise seemingly on the grounds of its unclubability. Are you suggesting that politics in industrial is only valuable or relevant if it can be played at a club? Or have I missed something here?
I guess I must have.
Hey Paulo,
I don’t recall dismissing noise and PE stuff, but if I said something to that effect, I’d like to clarify: I think that noise and PE are pretty marginal to the broader global industrial community, in that they are essentially their own scene that very very rarely intersects with what most consider industrial, at least in NA. This is also the issue where when we don’t have an agreed upon definition of industrial it’s hard to define what we’re talking about. “Our Thing” and all that. Thanks for commenting!
Right, I see what your saying. Personally I am of the exact opposite opinion, but no point in entering the what’s industrial debate. At any rate, putting this aside, what I found surprising was your apparent suggestion that only music played at the club had political validity or relevance. I wasnt saying you dismissed PE/noise, but it’s political relevance on the basis that it didn’t get club play.
Thank you for having this conversation and thank you for allowing us to listen.